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Collected Item: “Roger Tolle Oral History, 2022/05/22”

Title

Roger Tolle

Who conducted the interview? List all names, separated by comma.

Kit Heintzman

Who was interviewed? List all names, separated by commas.

Roger Tolle

Email Address(es) for all interviewers. Separated by comma.

kheintzman@gmail.com

Use one-word hashtags (separated by commas) to describe your oral history. For example: Where did it originate? How does this object make you feel? How does this object relate to the pandemic?

#60+, #aging, #Autism, #Charlottesville, #dance, #gay, #gratitude, #HIV, #holistic, #insurance, #intimacy, #masking, #meditation, #movement, #napping, #relationships, #RoevWade, #somatics, #spirit, #Trager, #travel, #Trump, #vaccination, #Virginia

What is the format of your recording?

Video

In what ZIP code is the primary residence of the interviewee? (enter 5-digit ZIP code; for example, 00544 or 94305)? In what city/town/village does the interviewee live? In what country does the interviewee live? All comma-separated.

Charlottesville, Virginia

What is the gender of the interviewee? Be sure to allow interviewees to self-identify their gender in the pre-interview or interview. *Do not assign a gender identity to interviewees.*

He/him

What is the age of the interviewee?

65 to 74

How does the interviewee describe their race or ethnicity? Be sure to allow interviewees to self-identify their race/ethnicity in the pre-interview or interview. *Do not assign a racial or ethnic identity to interviewees.*

White/caucasian

Describe the oral history.

Some of the things we discussed include:
Becoming in touch with the body through dance, working as a dancer, working in somatic body work, coming out as gay.
Having witnessed the sexual revolution and the mainstreaming of birth control. Witnessing the HIV/AIDS crisis as a pandemic the government handled poorly before witnessing this government handle COVID-19 poorly.
Learning to take care of this body, living the practice, connecting with the body, bodywork, and moving training.
COVID messaging under Trump; Trumpism, populism, and election deniers.
The personal lost opportunity for failing to engage fully in self-exploration, breath-work, and emotional expression during the pandemic.
Experiencing depression for the first time during the pandemic.
Pandemic isolation when living alone.
Forming a small pod, navigating boundaries.
Ups and downs in relationship with boyfriend.
Going for walks.
Teaching the Trager (R) Approach to Somatic Therapy for 30+ years across the world.
Teaching in person during the pandemic pre-vaccination, draconian protocols and precautions.
Working as a surrogate partner in sex therapy.
Being honest with clients about the limitations of what one can offer.
Canceling plans to go to Europe to teach in early 2020.
Receiving early access to vaccination due to age; poor organization of rollout from the federal government and misinformation.
Recently traveling to the Netherlands, changes in traveling after major events like 9/11 and COVID.
Catching COVID while traveling in Switzerland. Mild symptoms.
Complying to the others’ safety requests.
Enjoying being mask-free at any available moment.
Handling the challenges of having an aging body, needing more medicine and assistive devices as aging; parents modeling aging well.
The conflation of “healthcare” and “medical care”.
Hierarchies in the health care and wellness industries.
The limits of health insurance; Obamacare, Medicare, and health as a human right.
Discrimnation in healthcare for women and trans people.
Social pressure and activism, activism getting in the way of equanimity, being enough and being intentional with energy.

See also: https://www.rogertolle.com

On what date did you record this oral history?

2022-05-22T13:39
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