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Collected Item: “John Christopher Chlebowski Oral History, 2021/05/24”

Title

Chris Chlebowski

Who conducted the interview? List all names, separated by comma.

Kit Heintzman

Who was interviewed? List all names, separated by commas.

Chris Chlebowski

Email Address(es) for all interviewers. Separated by comma.

kheintzman@gmail.com

Use one-word hashtags (separated by commas) to describe your oral history. For example: Where did it originate? How does this object make you feel? How does this object relate to the pandemic?

#BigPharma, #environmentalism, #family, #food, #freedom, #homeopathy, #insurance, #loneliness, #marriage, #masking, #naturopath, #Oregon, #toxicity

What is the format of your recording?

Video

In what ZIP code is the primary residence of the interviewee? (enter 5-digit ZIP code; for example, 00544 or 94305)? In what city/town/village does the interviewee live? In what country does the interviewee live? All comma-separated.

Southern Oregon

What is the gender of the interviewee? Be sure to allow interviewees to self-identify their gender in the pre-interview or interview. *Do not assign a gender identity to interviewees.*

Male

What is the age of the interviewee?

45 to 54

How does the interviewee describe their race or ethnicity? Be sure to allow interviewees to self-identify their race/ethnicity in the pre-interview or interview. *Do not assign a racial or ethnic identity to interviewees.*

White/Polish

Describe the oral history.

Some of the things we discussed include:
- Working as a naturopathic physician treating multisystem chronic disease.
- First hearing about COVID-19 in December 2019, taking it very seriously and worrying about the safety of wife and family; flipping perspective and living without fear of COVID-19.
- Actively treating COVID cases since January 2020 (100s of patients), and following allopathic and naturopathic scientific literature.
- That the word “pandemic” has become overloaded with political connotations.
- The inadequacies of for-profit American healthcare, culminating in COVID deaths and the loss of livelihoods.
- Feeling little change in day-to-day life due to the pandemic except a short period of isolation, enjoying time with family.
- Mental exhaustion from the focus on the scientific literature.
- Growing wealth disparities; COVID-relief related national debt.
- The health of individuals is inseparable from toxic environments with organophosphates, microplastics, BPBs; there is no separation between us and the earth.
- Harmful corporations.
- Local food production.
- Media fear mongering.
- Sick people wearing masks to protect others.
- Preventative measures of COVID after exposure.
- Learning that some social bonds were not as tight as first thought.
- Humans as social beings.

Other cultural references: Johns Hopkins CoronaVirus tracker, greenwashing, Amazon, Monsanto, cholera, Torus fields and energetic magnetic fields of the heart.

On what date did you record this oral history?

2021-05-24T10
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