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Katherine Lauersdorf Oral History 2020/05/07

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Katherine Lauersdorf Oral History 2020/05/07

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This interview was part of the University of Wisconsin- Eau Claire Public History Seminar course and UWEC COVID-19 Archive Project led by Dr. Cheryl Jimenez Frei and Greg Kocken.

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English

Date Submitted (Dublin Core)

07/14/2020

Date Modified (Dublin Core)

10/21/2020
11/17/2020
02/24/2021
03/08/2021

Date Created (Dublin Core)

05/07/2020

Interviewer (Bibliographic Ontology)

Nick Eggert

Interviewee (Bibliographic Ontology)

Katherine Lauersdorf

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Sheboygan
United States
Wisconsin

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Video

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English

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*This transcript was created using AI and is not considered an official or complete transcript*
NE
Right, let's say recording in the top left corner.

KL
Yes.

NE
Okay, perfect.


All right. Hello, everyone. My name is Nick Eggert. And today's date is May 7, and it's 3:02. And I'm here with Well, I'll let you introduce yourself.

KL
Hi, I am Katherine Lauersdorf.

NE
What do you do Katherine?

KL
I am a registered nurse at the Vince Lombardi cancer clinic in Sheboygan, Wisconsin.

NE
Okay, okay. Um, how do you feel about the whole COVID-19 pandemic? Like, what were your initial thoughts?

KL
At first I didn't really want to believe it. And then the news just kind of got to me a lot. You kind of gets like wrapped up into it. You see on social media, and after a while, like when reports came out and the numbers just don't seem as intense as what everyone pans it out to be. But it was like, okay, whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah, sounds terrible, but you kind of get numb to it.

NE
So you think it was kind of like a mass hysteria first?

KL
Yeah, okay. Absolutely.

NE
All right. Oh, I love how like day to day activities kind of change for you.

KL
Um, So for work. The only thing that has changed is because I work at a cancer clinic. We have patients who are their immune systems are very, very down, I guess, you could say, and the chances of them getting sick are a lot higher so we don't allow any visitors in so it doesn't seem as busy But like socially, it's just kind of hard because you can't really, you don't have that option to hang out with anybody or everyone is just scared to meet up with you because of what's going on. You know, so I would say socially, I was more affected than professionally or with my job. So,

NE
and going further with that was socially, more like an introverted person where you're out and about all the time.

KL
That depends. That depends. There are some times where I feel like I'm a big introvert or I don't want to do anything. And I'm not gonna lie, this virus kind of helped with that because it was like, Okay, I don't have to go anywhere, you know, I don't need to do anything. But there are times when I need to be around other people outside of work, but I would say overall more I'm more introverted.

NE
So Kind of a smoke. I'm an extrovert. So that's okay. Okay.

KL
Sorry.

NE
Sorry, I messed up. I know I messed up.

KL
Okay.

NE
Oh, and so I just want to go back to your work life plan. Um, has there been any like huge changes? I know you mentioned that your clientele are like immunosuppressed people, but is there like a huge change in work life? Like the atmosphere?

KL
Besides, um, are you talking? Well, okay, like patient wise. The other are less people coming in, we had to push back people who I wouldn't say it wasn't necessary, like if they weren't necessarily needed treatment, but like if they needed something like a port flush or something simple, I guess that could wait. We push that back. And we just continue to take care of people who needed treatment. are other infusions and stuff like that. So, um, but as of right now the amount of new people that we normally get isn't as much because the diagnostic surgeries are down right now. So no one can get tested. So once this opens, I think it's going to be more of a, a wave of people, you know, but at work itself. Let's see, like pay wise, we get furlough, which is kind of nice. So if we don't meet all of our hours, we get furlough pay. So which is nice compared to other times because if you don't get your hours, you know, you just don't get paid. So, um, other than that, having to wear a mask all the time and just get your temperatures checked. When we come in. Other than that, nothing has really changed. Actually, I take that back we have let's see. Two, three doctors To kind of rotate, and they have to do video conferences, or you just have to instant message them at work. It's kind of different compared to them just being there all the time. Our cancer, nurse navigators are not on site anymore. So I feel kind of bad for them because they have to figure out who took care of who, you know, versus just trying to find someone physically so they just have a lot more stress for what they do. But other than that, that's really the big changes.

NE
So you're not like getting tested. Normally.

KL
The only testing that we do is just get a temperature check before I walk in the building. So

NE
we're, um, so overall, would you say like tensions are pretty high within the offices are like power, like you and your coworkers feeling about all this?

KL
A lot of In the beginning it was we got like closer I feel because it was all new, it was different. And how do you you know, policies are changing all the time, like one minute, you can wear a surgical mask the next minute you can wear like a cloth mask and things. So we were just very flexible. And now I think everyone is just getting irritated. Because you can't do anything. You can't really I guess, release like stress, because normally you can go out with your friends or you can go with hang out with family and things. And I think that's just really wearing on people. They're bringing it to work, if that makes sense. Yeah.

NE
So you did mention like your family. Have you been in touch with them a lot? Are you doing like zoom calls?

KL
So with my family, I have a little bit of a different situation. I currently live at home with my family and everybody's considering an essential worker. So, okay, so my parents own a trucking business. So I work at their warehouse. The days I'm not the clinic, and my mom runs the warehouse, my sister's there. And my brother and my dad drive truck over the road. And my sister's fiance also lives with us, and he drives over the road. So that really hasn't changed for us. So but as far as like other friends or other elderly couples, we've been like doing a couple zoom chats or like, for example, my friend's son just turned one about a month ago. So I drove up to Green Bay to do those parades, you know, but that's pretty much it. So I'm

NE
just wondering, because a lot of people, myself included, like we aren't able to see our family members as much So it's just interesting that you brought the trucking industry. So are you like self quarantine away from everyone else knowing that you have to go into the Vince Lombardi clinic? Are you still seeing each other daily basis?

KL
me my family? Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, we see that we still see each other every day. at the warehouse. We have like an off we have the office with a glass door that's locked, so no one can come in the windows closed. That's pretty much or before it was open so people can just freely walk in and out of the office. So that's pretty much like quarantine thing there. But as far as coming home and see my family every day that has not changed.

NE
Or are you gonna switch topics here? You say you're from Sheboygan, Wisconsin. How do you Which community is reacting to all this?

KL
How did you react?

NE
The community? So like, for you?

KL
Um, it's hard. So like in the beginning, I think people panicked because they didn't know what to expect. But now I think people are not. They're not really obeying the stay at home order, at least I don't think they are. So I feel like it lost its intensity or its scare or whatever you want to call it. So

NE
I think a lot of people like you said, just want to get out and about you're already tired of this. Right here. Like what kind of like activities actually hold on a second.

KL
Of course, no worries.

NE
Um, so who who usually like does most of the shopping in your family

KL
cuz um, at first it was like my sister and I, my mom would go every once in a while but again it was I would say the majority was me because I was already out and where the clinic is it's like right next to a grocery store or I pass Myers and stuff on my way home so it's just more convenient for me to stop. But if it's during the weekend, or whenever, I guess my sister will come with me. But we try to stick like my like one does it my dad went once my mom went a couple times. But yeah, the majority will be Mr. Nye. So

NE
your Do you know anyone that has done COVID-19? like Facebook?

KL
Um, let's see. I don't know anybody personally, but I know people who had like, for example, my friend's grandma had it, or let's see. Or like a couple of random, my friends, their friends kind of thing but nobody personally

NE
guess I'm going to switch off the topics again. You know, like, how do you think though, like local government is handling everything if you says calm relax, what do you think? How do you think they're handling?

KL
How do I think the Like, what we're doing?

NE
Yeah.

KL
Um, to be honest, I think how he extended the stay at home was kind of a little excessive, in my opinion. I just find it kind of hard to believe that why would you extend something when you really don't know what the rest of the month is gonna be? Like, you know? So, to be honest, I think they're kind of overdoing it. You know, and like, on a federal level, I feel like Trump is doing everything he can to kind of, you know, get the economy going and but still be cautious of it because he's allowing the governor's to like, okay, you decide when your state opens, but at least they have other phases in place where people can follow, but I think federally, we're doing good, but the state was I don't think so. If that makes sense,

NE
right? I kind of get that. And then do you agree with him showing all the parts to like?

KL
No, I think that's ridiculous, to be honest, because you're outside. If you just stay the six feet away, I don't see it being a big deal. But the fact that you had to shut that down was a little ridiculous. Like, I actually heard a story of there was this group that was outside singing happy birthday to this elderly couple. It was in Kiel, I think. And the neighbor didn't like it. So the neighbor called the cops. And the cops came over because there's more than 10 people. He said, If you don't leave, I'll define you $1,000 per person, which is completely ridiculous, but what do you do? Right?

NE
This is scary times or weekend, everyone. Kind of fearful and paranoid because they can see here how do you think this is gonna like, all pan out and like transpired

KL
I feel like this will be our new normal for quite a while. Um I have a feeling that when like the flu season hits, it's going to be very very intense because everyone who comes home and wipes everything down. And you know you're not allowing to be out in public and do anything your everyday germs and things like that you're not building up to or you're not being immune to it. So really, you're kind of knocking down your own immune system at home. So once flu hits and you have no immune system Um, I think it's gonna hit you harder. versus a year ago, when you were out unable to do anything you wanted. Um, I feel that it's going to be hitting all the phases. I think it's gonna be intense because it's gonna, you're gonna think, Hey, can I go? Can we make this plan? Can we plan this because there's only a certain amount of people. I just think it's gonna be very hard to get used to. Until all the phases are completed, you know?

NE
So, so you see, like, past events now. You're just like, Oh, I can't believe you're doing that. Like, say, I'm watching a TV show. And you see, no people hugging? Is that kind of like, change your whole view of relationship?

KL
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of weird how you see things on TV or like if it's at an event or Something or at a concert. You're like, wow, like, I can't even I can't even picture that right now. You know, especially with like, even, for example summerfest and like country USA and stuff that's all being pushed back to August. You know what I mean? So it's it's hard to see on TV definitely. I'm actually watching the show, and people are very close. And it's like, wow, yeah, no way.

NE
Right. So. So, I know a lot of people like to like the government thing. They're, they're opening up the whole, like, debate about the economy. So do you think like, we'll be done with in the next, like, end of into the fall? Or do you think it's gonna be a couple of years from now that we're gonna have to re situate go back to normal?

KL
Um, let's see. You're asking For the economy to come back,

NE
I'm back for more just like that normal interaction with people, like how do you think? How long do you think it's going to take before we go back to normal?

KL
I think it will take quite a while, I would say probably probably a good year, maybe, because some people are just so petrified and they don't want to get anyone sick. And I understand that to a point. But at the same time, you also have to try to go back to some normalcy. So I think, depending on who it is, to be, you know, to be able to accept and try to go back to normal, you know, so I don't know, I think probably a good year, I would say, okay, but what do I know?

NE
Oh, I know we've been talking about like, so. Like, it's kinda I was kind of a dark kind of topic. Is there like anything that you saw on the news that was kind of lightened? Like positive and light heartening that you wanted to talk about?

KL
It's positive um I do really like how the community and just I guess like different companies and things are just really putting healthcare workers like hey, that's great. Like the discounts are like people raising money to help with anything related to COVID. What does kind of upset me though is like, Okay, I understand nurses and like health care workers are frontline and I think that's amazing. But there's other people I feel like we kind of forget about, like, for example, truck drivers. They aren't even allowed to get food inside of truck stops. They can't shower especially or like they have quarter or for parties outside. It's just they seem they feel very what's the word I'm looking for? They feel like they have a plague when really they're just trying to deliver supplies to everybody. You know. So it's kind of off topic, but I just didn't seem to notice that. So it's again, it's nice that people are boosting healthcare workers, but I think

NE
you think that they should be getting that kind of all the time. But now people are recognizing their importance. Yeah. Well, I think I got everything. Is there anything else you want to talk about?

KL
I don't find it very interesting though, with the schools, and like the online learning. Um, so my friend is a English teacher into pure She just told me the other day that they are possibly going to continue or more than likely continue online learning in the fall and fall sports are canceled. And to me it's like that is just so insane to make that kind of a decision this early you know what I mean? Like how about you like you're in school like how do you how are they handling it for you guys?

NE
Um, as of right now, it's still there but that topic was grateful for I think they might, they might still just take away from know that the the coolest thing so I think it might be more for like the next school year, just it's just tougher. Because people need that face to face interaction with young people. So, you have not much more to say. Thank you for taking time out of the day. So, yes. And I hope mentally and physically everything's gonna be okay for you, your family. Dom. What's up, and you have a good weekend.

KL
Thank you. You too. If you need anything, just let me know.

NE
All right. Sounds good. Thank you.

KL
Hey, bye

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2020/05/22 1:48:43 PM AST

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